tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post5454491731111349700..comments2023-06-30T03:19:06.979-05:00Comments on Liprap's Lament - The Line: Leigh C.http://www.blogger.com/profile/13654596932726420097noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-8896028604100349942008-08-09T23:03:00.000-05:002008-08-09T23:03:00.000-05:00I don't "get" the coffee house types either. They...I don't "get" the coffee house types either. They invaded a nice little restaurant we liked to frequent while travelling, and turned it into snob heaven. It's gotten so bad that if you're ordering food and you want it without something (like cheese or onions), you have to stand by while they call the kitchen and "ask permission" to make it that way. They have lost my business.<BR/><BR/>I must admit that I do get frustrated when I go somewhere and there are kids running roughshod (and yes, no kids here - I wasn't blessed that way) but from the sound of what you're saying, it really wasn't that bad. What gets me is stuff like kids throwing food, disrupting people at tables (like trying to take things from their table), and stealing things while parents sit idly by, laughing and commenting at how cute it is (happened to me more than once). <BR/><BR/>I "read" none of that in what you all posted, and I agree that there are alot of very intolerant people who feel that public places are theirs and theirs alone - and they do it to those with and without kids.<BR/><BR/>Good idea on the kid-friendly meeting place. Something less than a restaurant but more than a picnic area, for example.Funky-Rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08854698767815327415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-51905475438454399672008-08-09T15:15:00.000-05:002008-08-09T15:15:00.000-05:00I agree that parents of young ones need to get our...I agree that parents of young ones need to get our and socialize with other adults. It makes for better parents.<BR/><BR/>I agree that kids need to be in the society with adults. Makes for better kids who grow up to be better adults.<BR/><BR/>Totally agree that some people are intolerant of kids, even in places like coffeeshops that any thinking person would realize are not "kid-free zones".<BR/><BR/>You totally lost me by being po'd that people were upset kids were making lotsa noise and running around. <BR/><BR/>Holy sense of entitlement batman. The parents crossed the line in not either keeping the noise down to a dull roar or leaving. SorryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-89709554977524074162008-08-09T05:34:00.000-05:002008-08-09T05:34:00.000-05:00Unbelievable! It's a coffee shop, for heaven's sa...Unbelievable! It's a coffee shop, for heaven's sake!<BR/><BR/>(this is me bowing to you for your restraint in not decking somebody)NOLA radfemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11905750843042076110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-76533063242863635202008-08-08T14:10:00.000-05:002008-08-08T14:10:00.000-05:00If that girl had come up to me and said that, my r...If that girl had come up to me and said that, my response would have been, "This place doesn't look like a library carrel or your personal study area / music listening chamber to me. Please take your studying to be seen elsewhere." Oy with the poodles already!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-75332849418004068232008-08-08T13:07:00.000-05:002008-08-08T13:07:00.000-05:00It's a constant struggle, all of it. I don't unde...It's a constant struggle, all of it. I don't understand when coffee shops became libraries, myself. They used to be great, mostly non-alcoholic places in which one could watch the world go by and schmooze some with friends. Funny how that's changed...Leigh C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13654596932726420097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-36574482307270966552008-08-08T12:59:00.000-05:002008-08-08T12:59:00.000-05:00Never will I understand how one can study in a cof...Never will I understand how one can study in a coffeeshop, which to me is a place for socialization and *gasp* drinking coffee with, perhaps, friends or today's newspaper. This odd phenomenon took off when I was an undergrad when cafes became all the craze. Back then, the baristas hated that one or two people would come in with their books, occupy a table for four or more and purchase one cup of coffee (to make ghetto lattes) for the entire time they were there. There were 30-minute to one-hour study limits imposed for this very reason. <BR/><BR/>That said and also stating that I would like to be a mother soon, the sound of large groups of children (or any known source of chaos) in a small space makes my ears hurt. Add to that the fact that more and more parents don't tell their kids to behave in public grates at the way I was raised. But, kids will be kids - they play, run around, make noise and have fun. There has to be a combination of parental discipline, public awareness that kids exist and will make noise and taking your damned "studying" home so that everyone can enjoy their coffee how they see fit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-61502425725712795622008-08-08T11:47:00.000-05:002008-08-08T11:47:00.000-05:00Very nicely written. I fear the day Sun isn't the...Very nicely written. I fear the day Sun isn't the quiet, obeying child. :(<BR/><BR/>Tweet-ups with chirren to be at a home next time, for sure!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-83022344450464931312008-08-08T11:15:00.000-05:002008-08-08T11:15:00.000-05:00BTW... Mockingbird Cafe on Oak has a bunch of kids...BTW... Mockingbird Cafe on Oak has a bunch of kids' toys, a big low table for kids to gather 'round, and even a kid-friendly snack list. (Abeona goes there for snack often.) The hours are of the 'whenever we want' variety, but at least it's a start toward the kid-friendly venue!<BR/><BR/>A friend of mine (local 'Music Together' teacher) has been talking about a parenting group where we send certificates of appreciation to places that make themselves kid-friendly. Dunno if it would make a difference, but it's something...Cold Spaghettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669806898733425815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-40309063932398575792008-08-08T11:05:00.000-05:002008-08-08T11:05:00.000-05:00This sort of stuff makes me crazy. Kids need to g...This sort of stuff makes me crazy. Kids need to get out, be seen, and see how the world works. Deal with it, people! If folks are bent out of shape about it, then they can pitch in a help... criticism does nothing to help anyone, except to maybe inflate self-importance. <BR/><BR/>On that note, I think I'm going to take Kate (home from school this week) and go walk up to CC's.<BR/><BR/>I think we should make a Mommy-blogger group and go terrorize the city...Cold Spaghettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669806898733425815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-8322508333340305762008-08-08T10:14:00.000-05:002008-08-08T10:14:00.000-05:00Thanks! Great story, well told. What it says to me...Thanks! Great story, well told. What it says to me is that we're in need of a chain of kid-friendly adult gathering places (as opposed to adult-friendly kid gathering places), a <I>coffee/snack/tea/whatever</I> house with distraction of some kind for the kids built in (preferably air conditioned). There's a franchise opportunity there for someone who can fund the start up.<BR/><BR/>I think I've told you that I didn't dare take Thomas anywhere "grown up" 'til he was like, 6? Heck, I couldn't even take him inside Micky D's 'til then. For Michael's Loyno graduation, he played host to the whole family for dinner at Mr. B's (using his check card tied to my account). My, how time flies. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, thanks again, so much for fulfilling my request. It was deeply satisfying. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-2013055838201297752008-08-08T07:59:00.000-05:002008-08-08T07:59:00.000-05:00I'm sorry your outing wasn't all you hoped for. Yo...I'm sorry your outing wasn't all you hoped for. You made a very good point about how parents of very young children can feel very isolated. <BR/><BR/>All, I can offer is that it does get easier as they get older. It really does. But, I still crave the contact of grown adults who are not going to argue with me about whether or not I really know MATH. <BR/><BR/>Keep on keepin on, and hey, let 'em drink coffee, because you know caffeine makes it ALL more fun! My daughter goes in a coffee shop and always asks the barista for a cup-o-joe! She's 9. Continue teaching them well.saintseesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05674271080347529416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-63405604024059133392008-08-07T23:58:00.000-05:002008-08-07T23:58:00.000-05:00I am, too. Parenting is tough enough without this...I am, too. Parenting is tough enough without this crap from other people.Leigh C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13654596932726420097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19896356.post-54739181221238554622008-08-07T23:54:00.000-05:002008-08-07T23:54:00.000-05:00I think you said it better than I did. My problem...I think you said it better than I did. My problem was more with what she was saying about me, as a parent. Just feeling a little thin skinned, lately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com